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Friday, September 11th | The Bleat.

I have about 487534 hours of TV and movies queued up here and there, and what do I watch? The Office. The original Office. As a perfectly self-contained piece of TV – 13 episodes, no more – it’s unmatched. You could write a thesis on the brief opening credits, from the carousel futility of the cars in the roundabout to the meaningless brambles of modern art that adorn the modernist facade of the Wernam-Hogg HQ. The way the empty atmosphere of the office is constantly punctuated by the interrogative of the double-trill phones, the way nearly every meaningful human emotion is communicated with a jittery close-up of someone repressing a reaction.

 

I love the American version, although I was content to let it ride last year and pick it up in Netflix DVD form. Maybe the anticipation of rejoining the story made me pop in the original Office last week; maybe I just missed it. The show had a happy ending, you know. Many of my favorite American TV shows ended happily, but they did so after overstaying their welcome by a year or two. Or they went out poorly, like the X-Files. (I predict “Lost” will have an ending that’s Dark and Conflicted for some characters, Resolutely Ambiguous for others, and resoundingly good for a few. Mark my brave, bold words!)

 

Within a few minutes of watching the first episodes, though, I was reminded of something else, something that had attached itself to the show. The mood of the Early Oughts. The show was shot in 2001, and hit the states the year after. It wasn’t that the show had anything to do with the mood of the Early Oughts – it seemed an example of an exhausted culture that had painted itself into a corner where irrelevance, bureaucracy, and impotence were the dominant tropes, but the tone of the show and its hovering unspoken criticism editorialized nicely against the smothering effect of life in the cubicle world. No, it was who I was when I watched it. What I felt. The fact that I was switching from the hot red feed of the TV news to a DVD, unplugging for a while from the incessant imperatives of the crawl, the words at the bottom of the screen that scraped the screen with the latest events. In those days I turned on the TV as soon as I got up, and read the crawl. I muted the TV during the day, but kept an eye on the crawl. When I finished an episode of the Office I switched back to the dish, and checked the crawl.

 

This lasted a few years. The internet took over, and I think I stopped watching TV news the day Saddam’s statue came down. In the most simplistic and emotional sense, it was a tonic chord that provided resolution. But every so often – every week, really – I remember the event in some odd echo of the emotions I felt on September 11. It might be the closing credit music of a BBC comedy, or an old movie about New York, or driving past a building designed by the architect of the WTC, or just standing in the spot where I stood when I saw the towers fall. Or more: for God’s sake, the Gallery of Regrettable Food’s publication date was 9/11; half the time I look at the book on the shelf I recall being in the shower, thinking of the interviews I had lined up, turning off the water and hearing Peter Jennings on the radio, wondering why they were replaying tape of the 91 attack on the towers. I remember what Natalie was doing – a happy toddler, she was digging through her box of toys and handing me a phone with a smile as bright as the best tomorrow you could imagine. I remember Jasper on his back, whining, unsure. I remember these things because I picked up my camera and filmed them, because this was a day unlike any other. Today I answered the phone in the same spot where I stood when I called my Washington bureau, told them I’d be rewriting the column – obviously – and wished them well. They were four blocks from the White House. Impossible not to imagine the Fail-Safe squeal on the other end of the line.

 

On the Hewitt show tonight I started talking about 9/11, and my mouth overran my head, because somewhere down there is a core of anger that hasn’t diminished a joule. This doesn’t mean anything, by itself – anger is an emotion that believes its justification is self-evident by its very existence. Passion is not an argument; rage is not a plan. But as the years go by I find myself as furious now as I was furious then – and no less unmanned by the sight of the planes and the plumes. Once a year I watch the thing I cobbled together from the footage I Tivo’d, and the day is bright and real and true again.

 

Or not. It’s all so far in the past, isn’t it? The ten-year-old you had to sit down and console and reassure is off to college. The President is retired – seems like he left two years ago. The wars grind on, but as far as the front pages are concerned, they’re like TV shows that lost their popularity but pull enough viewers to avoid cancellation. (The video store doesn’t even carry the DVD of the first two seasons anymore.) We’re used to the hole in the ground where the towers used to be, and if they announced they won’t rebuild, but will pave it over and use it for parking, people would shrug. We haven’t forgotten that the towers fell, but no one remembers what they planned to replace them with. The towers they planned looked empty in in the pictures – shiny, contorted, as if twisting away to avoid a blow.

Right after the towers fell, people who’d never liked them as architecture wanted them back just as they were. Get back up in the sky! But it hasn’t happened. Even if they build the replacement towers, there’s still a space in the sky where no one will ever stand again. We could stand there once. That we couldn’t stand there eight years ago was their fault. That we cannot stand there today is ours.

 

(larger version here.)

 

150 Responses to Friday, September 11th

  1. Al Federber says:

    @The SHWAMY
    Well said. I worship neither a god or a government. 9/11 is a good example why.

  2. Just doing some basic sigint analysis here of negative network traffic. It seems that one troll has an overwhelming magnetic attraction to others of their ilk. The longer the bitstream, the more noise creeps into the signal. As this string of comments grew, life under the bridges apparently became less tolerable, and more trollery emerged into the light on a logrithmic timeline. Not addressing signal to noise content here, others have done so quite well. Simply observing the growing decay.

  3. Mike Gebert says:

    “How is it we tell parents they should wait until their anger subsides before they punish their children, and yet we feel justified in letting anger dictate our response to the 9/11 attacks?”

    Yeah, who can forget Bush petulantly dropping nukes on Afghanistan the very next day?

  4. @madCanada
    I was not

    madCanada :
    Sorry to lay a heavy one on you on this heavy day. But I can’t stand lazy thinking. This whole affair could have been handled better, and smarter.
    God Bless You, friends & neighbours.

    Thanks for the “lazy thinking” observation.

    I’ll try harder next time to come up with an analogy that fits all the ideas being thrown around here. I’ll have to address 911 trutherism, torture, Iraq, Afghanistan, the GWOT, etc. all in one simple allegory. Better get some sleep.

  5. Al Federber says:

    Hey, James…Natalie can enlist in eight years.

  6. [...] Prior to 9-11, I never watched most of the movies. I caught glimpses here and there, but never the whole thing and never in a bunch. I was not what you would call a “Trekkie” or a “Trekker” and I didn’t get the whole hub-bub. That changed when 9-11 happened. TNN, now known as Spike TV, began running the films in daily marathons during the following days of the attacks. While the rest of my family was glued to cable news and whatever small morsels of news they could chew on, I tried to escape to my TV upstairs in my bedroom at my parents’ house with Captain Kirk. It was the only relief I had from, what James Lileks so eloquently put today, as the “incessant imperatives of the crawl.” [...]

  7. hpoulter says:

    Thanks, lefties. One thing we know about you is your presumptive and unwarranted assumtion of moral superiority. Also, we are well aware that you squeal like stuck pigs when criticised, however mildly, though you are free to to throw rhetorical bombs of any degree of ferocity and indulge in any over-the-top overstatement that suits your mood.

    Well, we know you are there – boldly holding up the banner of moral equivalence, Western guilt and BDS, while the people who actually protect youtr right to piss on the parade and foul your own nest labor on, regardless of your obloquy and moral preening. Carry on. And God bless THEM.

    Have a nice day. Hope and change.

  8. hpoulter says:

    Hmmph – typos. Oh well. God Bless America. No typo there.

  9. lanczos says:

    And now the SurrendeRATs can hardly wait to… what else? surrender. In Iraq (a war already WON, no thanks to them) and in Afghanistan, where, exactly a year ago, they criticized GWB for “ignoring”. Sound familiar? “V- Vi- Viet- Viet- VietNam.”

    This is the stuff of which revolutions are made. We can only hope that it will be a peaceful evolution. But if the Ameri-communists and ACORN are involved, no such resolution appears to be possible.

  10. Maxwell Jump says:

    @madCanada

    Nah, it’s like having a couple of bees nests in your backyard, one day bees from one of the nest attacks your family and kills them. So you go and destroy the nest and all the bees, or at least the ones who didn’t escape. Gee, what to do about the other bees nest? Leave it and hope nothing happens, or do you destroy it too? I mean, they were having bee celebrations and honoring the bees from the first nest, plus they were sending large amounts of honey to some bees down the road who were attacking friends of yours. Gee, what a quandary!

  11. Andrew says:

    Sweet suffering Jesus, lanczos — do us all a favor and turn off the Fox News for a week, okay?

  12. bgbear says:

    Andrew :
    Sweet suffering Jesus, lanczos — do us all a favor and turn off the Fox News for a week, okay?

    yeah, only listen to the prescribed lies, not the lies of the snake oil salesmen.

    Skepticism is a good thing, I would be disappointed if it was not applied to GWB and the GWOT but please, save some for the guys wearing the “D”, “L”, “P” and “E” badges.

  13. Mike G says:

    What amazes me about Truthers is that they don’t take the path of least resistance– some feverish fantasia about the CIA, the Trilateral Commission, the Carlyle Group, etc., working with Prescott Bush’s ex-Nazi buddies to train Saudi pilots.

    Oh no, they do it the hard way– wiring skyscrapers for weeks with no one seeing them, just so they can be exploded right when empty airplanes whose passengers were kidnapped can smack into them.

    If Truthers were in charge of the Moon landing hoax, they’d have had NASA filming the fake Moon landing on Mars.

  14. [...] Lileks: Right after the towers fell, people who’d never liked them as architecture wanted them back just as they were. Get back up in the sky! But it hasn’t happened. Even if they build the replacement towers, there’s still a space in the sky where no one will ever stand again. We could stand there once. That we couldn’t stand there eight years ago was their fault. That we cannot stand there today is ours. [...]

  15. Lisa P says:

    Honestly, people! It is completely inappropriate to engage in partisan bickering in response to this very moving video. This reminder of how all of our hearts and spirits were shattered on that day. Shame on you all! Watch the video and remember the people who lost their lives that day. People of all nationalities and all faiths. Can’t you all just stop sniping for one day and be reverent?!

    Thank you, James, for posting this. It brought into sharp focus those memories and feelings that have receded into the background, but have never faded.

    I was at work that morning, chatting on the phone with my sister, when she said to someone near her, “Wait, what?” and then told me a plane had hit the World Trade Center. We both assumed it was a small plane, pilot error, not doubt. I went online to look just as the second plane hit, and I told her we were under attack and I had to go.

    I went downstairs to the lobby, where others had already begun gathering around the TV. We all watched in stunned silence as the scene unfolded. I worked in a prominent business school at the time, and a professor who had been holding a class in an adjacent room came out to see why none of her students had returned from their break. Of course, all of them were either watching or they were at the front desk trying to figure out how to get home (many of them were New
    Yorkers).

    I remember watching the firefighters walking past the cameras, eager to get to the fire, eager to get to the people in need of help. My then husband had been a Philadelphia firefighter for 15 years, and I understood their eagerness, as I understood the fear their spouses watching at home must have felt.

    As I watched your video, James, I was particularly struck by how raw my feelings still were upon seeing the first tower fall. I can distinctly remember hearing my coworker saying, over and over, “What’s happening? Oh my god, what’s happening?” and hearing myself saying, over and over, “The first responders! Oh my god, the first responders!”

    That evening, I stopped on the way home to pick up something to eat, because I knew we had to eat, whether we felt like it or not. I saw a display of flags and I picked one up. I don’t remember if I even got any food. I just mostly remember seeing the other shoppers and the employees shuffling around red-eyed and numb-faced, knowing that I had that same look. It was like a zombie movie, but nobody was hungry.

    I particularly remember a young man with a bunch of flowers in his hand. I supposed he had picked them up for some special person, for some special occasion. He was holding them down at his side, seemingly unaware that he had even picked them up. I felt sorry that his special occasion would forever be marred by the day’s events. I think that was what finally made my heart shatter. The realization that all of us were forever changed on that day.

    Tell me about your experience. Don’t include your politics. They are irrelevant and out of place on such a day as this.

  16. bgbear says:

    @Lisa P
    nice thoughts, not falling on deaf ears.

    If you will indulge my “they started” rhetoric, they did. The first shot came from some moral person named “mudshark” followed by “crossdotcu” up till then reverence was in order.

  17. Waterhouse says:

    Great, an entire gaggle of smirking smarter-than-thou Truther nuts, gobsmackingly stupid in their relentless immunity to facts, infest an excellent post from James.

    As Kathy Shaidle said, we’ll know you nutjobs are serious and not just a bunch of grandstanding attention whores with hilarious overestimations of your own intelligence when you flee the country which you believe would murder you in order to uh, um, invade Afghanistan or whatever you clowns think was the end game.

  18. Lisa P says:

    @Waterhouse
    I’ll say it again: Shame on you! This is a holy day. Be reverent. Remember the lives lost. Argue tomorrow, but leave this day for prayer and rememberance.

  19. Pickypicky says:

    For the WTC Jumpers

    “WHEN THE DEVIL HAD FINISHED ALL THE TEMPTING HE LEFT HIM, TO AWAIT ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY”
    -Luke 5:13

    He came back,
    This time for me.
    On the 110th floor I was so close to God
    I could almost grab his beard.
    Never before has heaven been this close to hell.
    I can feel its fire on the floors below
    Raising ash and paper and smoke
    Thick as Satan’s laughter.
    At the window, shattered,
    I look for salvation and he tempts me,
    Dares me to jump,
    Whispering a psalm in my ear
    He spits as he speaks:
    “He will bid his angels watch over you.
    With their hands they will support you.”
    I mumble “Amen,”
    Close my eyes and sense the rush of air.
    I cannot breathe until I finally feel
    Those hands of angels
    Hard as cement against my face.

    by Doug Seubert

  20. Waterhouse says:

    Yeah, spare me your sanctimony, Lisa P. If our genial host allows it, I think I’ll respond to Truthers as I see fit.

  21. Cathy York says:

    James, as I’ve come to expect from you, this is absolutely spot-on. Thank you for helping me re-visit just what that awful day felt like those 8 years ago: seeing events that jarred my sense of security unfold in the midst of ordinary, hopeful, everyday routines. I especially appreciate the last paragraph; it really resonates.

  22. mac says:

    Areader, I don’t often do this but on 9/11 I’m not willing to let your lying defamation go unanswered. I know you lefties don’t give a damn about the truth but here it is anyway.

    “9/11 happened on Bush’s watch” Yes, it happened because his criminal predecessor handicapped our intelligence agencies so greatly they couldn’t legally communicate with each other. He was too busy playing with Monica to tend to business.

    “didn’t get Bin Laden on Bush’s watch” We don’t know that for sure. Bin Laden may be dead in Tora Bora. Whether he is or not, Bush took down the country that was supporting him and providing him the base he used to train the bastards that attacked us. Moreover, he’s done nothing since that can be provably traced to him.

    “Katrina on Bush’s watch” Yeah, blame that on Bush. It was Bush’s fault that Louisiana had a criminally corrupt, totally incompetent Democrat Governor and New Orleans had a criminally corrupt, even worse Democrat Mayor, neither of whom instituted Federally funded, in-place plans for evacuating the city and dealing with disasters of this type. It was also Bush’s fault that under existing law he had to wait for the Governor to ask him to Federalize the response, something he personally tried to get her to do and which she refused until much later. Remember all the murders and rapes that happened at the Superdome according to the MSM? Blame them on Bush, too. One problem–THEY DIDN’T HAPPEN! The Superdome, as headquarters of the LA National Guard for the emergency, was probably the safest place in NOLA. It was all more leftie lies–as usual.

    “Disastrous invasion of Iraq on Bush’s watch” Yeah, big disaster. It took down a man who was threatening his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction and who had already used them on his own people. That war is WON despite the material aid and comfort provided to the enemy coming from people like YOU. Ask our soldiers who fought over there what they think of Democrats. I was there twice and did. Lefties like you won’t like the answer.

    “return to deficit spending on Bush’s watch” Yeah, blame that on Bush. Every other American President fighting a war has always managed to keep the budget balanced–except the ones like Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton and Obama. Don’t come with the “Clinton had a balanced budget” crap, either. He only had the benefit of a war that Reagan and Bush I won ending plus his theft from Social Security. That doesn’t count as a balanced budget.

    “financial collapse on Bush’s watch” Take a look at what unemployment and the Dow were on the last day of the Republican Congress in 2006: Dow 12000+, unemployment 5.5% This pile of economic garbage we’re facing now is STRICTLY ON YOU DEMS. YOUR FAULT. YOU DID IT. I hope to God the American people make you pay heavily for it in 2010.

    Areader, you’re a lying son of a bitch demeaning the actions of far better people than yourself. My apologies to Mr. Lileks for the anger I’ve displayed here but I’m sick to death of the constant stream of lies coming out of the leftists that are destroying this country. There are a lot of comparisons to be drawn between Spain in 1936 and the U.S. today. When the dam breaks, payback to the America-hating lefties for their ongoing treason is going to be one heavy bill.

  23. Chris says:

    “I don’t know what it means, but every time I watch an episode of Mad Men, the opening titles remind me of the photos of the people who jumped from the towers.

    The way the writers like to peg the irony meter and mingle the storylines with historical events, I can predict that, maybe in season four (1964), Sterling Cooper is approached to do PR work for “that new World Trade Center project”

  24. Chris says:

    “there is also plenty of evidence that the Pentagon “bombing’ was a hoax, and that those two other planes were not capable of taking down the WTC buildings on their own.”

    And, this just in..the Apollo moon landings were a hoax, O.J. Simpson didn’t murder his wife, and Elvis Presley and Jim Morrison are still alive.

  25. Chris says:

    “Your elected leaders are the real terrorists. ”

    Well, if we’re talking post-November 2008 election, you’re correct.

  26. Spot on, as usual.

    I quoted your column yesterday, along with one you wrote in 2006. Our current “head in the sand” approach to terrorism (no pun intended) has me furious.

  27. areader says:

    @Chris
    Please explain…

  28. bgbear says:

    areader :
    @Chris
    Please explain…

    I dot know about Chris but, I promise never to call a fellow American (or true ally) a terrorist unless they do something truly terrifying with intent to intimidate.

    It is plenty of work calling out people trying to do “good”.

  29. Nathan says:

    Thank you, James, for sharing the video. It brought tears to my eyes, and you’re right, the anger is still there, too.

  30. Andrew says:

    Don’t misunderstand me: 9/11 Truthers are nuts, N-V-T-S Nuts, as Mel Brooks would say. But the insane, ACORN-spouting, Obama-is-a-Communist, Fox News-watching loons writing in opposition are just as bonkers — and for the exact same reasons.

    lanczos writes: “But if the Ameri-communists and ACORN are involved, no such resolution appears to be possible.”

    Seriously — can anyone tell me that’s not absolutely, bat-guano crazy in precisely the same way that “George W. Bush wired the Twin Towers to explode” is crazy?

  31. fizzbin says:

    Come on people now
    Smile on your brother
    Everybody get together
    Try to love one another
    Right now..RAT-A-TAT-TAT-TAT

    Jeez, you had to end your comment with that, didn’t you!! Fizz, you’re an a@@hole :(

  32. Kev says:

    I saw some drivers who were listening to CD’s with dopey grins, completely oblivious as to what was going on. Each car a small pocket of September 10th.

    I was one of those drivers, for a moment. On that morning, I was on a break from school (I’m a private music instructor who doesn’t necessarily have students in every class period), chilling out at a Starbucks (to this day, I have no idea why nobody came in to tell us what happened). On my way out, I heard a radio that someone was listening to on the patio broadcast the words “the second plane,” but the person listening to it didn’t say anything, either. I must have had a particularly good CD in the car that morning, because I didn’t turn on the news radio station like I often do. My blissful ignorance continued until I got back to school, when one of the other teachers asked me if any of my students had been pulled out of school by their parents, like some of hers had. I asked her why in the world the parents would do that, and she filled me in on what had happened while I was in my little bubble.

    James, thanks as always for posting that video every year; this is something we must never forget. And to those on this board who are battling back and forth: May we someday be again as one as a nation, as we were in the days following the attacks…but without having to endure a repeat performance of history to attain that goal.

  33. alexa kim says:

    @Pickypicky
    I’m not sure I understand the intent of the poem.

    Is the commenter criticising the people who jumped rather than be incinerated?

    (If this question has already been answered elsewhere in the thread, maybe sometime later I can read the over 100 comments, but I can’t just now.)

    It is lived-in, somewhat contorted and bleak and… offended. (And I tend toward the bleak, so, that’s saying something.)

    “““““““““““
    I stand with you Lileks. My anger of that day has not diminished. It has not moderated. It is not muted. No.

    America deserves the head of Usama bin Laden. And if not, those of all of his family. Our Armed Forces, our fellow citizens, are vanquishing our enemy and we now owe them a massive debt.

    Not for our lifestyle (really, that’s trivial). But for the lives of their brethren who have died in combat.

    Since we have no way of paying them all they are due, at a minimum, let them attain what they are so very well trained to do: win. The head of UBL belongs to them, first. The satisfaction will be worth billions if not trillions. And not just to Americans. Not just for Americans.

    I will not sit quietly by and let our smarmy elected officials stab them in the back.

    When are we going to stop electing people just because they kiss our butts?

  34. MikeH says:

    I’m definetly not going to get into any partisan bickering on who’s fault this was (we know that) or who should be punished, the right way to stop any future acts, etc. This was an act of terrorisim on US soil and it would not have mattered who was running the country at the time, it still would have happened. When i saw this on TV back 8 years ago, my heart sank, felt numb and scared that this would happen to us. In Dec. 2001 me and my wife went to NYC and went to the WTC site, with all the memorials still all around the site, and felt this eerie quietness that all these people died at this spot. It’s the best way i can describe the feeling. I only had felt that way once before in my life at the USS Arizona memorial in Pearl Harbor. Each time the thought going through my mind, “how can this happen on US soil?” Maybe that sounds like something a little kid would say, anyway that’s how I felt, and still feel.

    I guess I had to get it out of my system and type here what I am feeling, and what I had felt about that day, even if I’m not that great with words.

  35. GardenStater says:

    Yesterday evening, as I drove home, I listened to a radio show that replayed some of the 911 calls and other emergency broadcasts from that horrible morning. Among them were a young woman who was asking the 911 operator “I’m going to die, aren’t I?” The operator, God bless her, said something like “Honey, just say your prayers–I’m going to stay on the line with you.” Another 911 call was from a desperate man at Windows on the World, whose call ended with him screaming “OH MY GOD!!!” as the building collapsed and he died.

    I cried as I drove home. God, but how awful it was to hear the screams of the dying.

  36. GardenStater says:

    Anyone who wants to blame us, just listen to this; a guy who just showed up to work one day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pMcaNuO8gs

  37. madCanada says:

    Hello again.

    Fact … CANCER and HEART DISEASE kill a vast greater number of Americans every year, much more than “Terrorism”.

    Yet a great number of Americans are opposed to universal health care, even if it means reducing these numbers, maybe even finding a cure.

    This just goes to show you: this “War on Terror” was never about “saving lives”. It is all about PRIDE.

    Pride is a terrible reason to do anything. Pride is one of the Seven Deadly Sins. It will not take you to a good place.

    FYI, to those who call yourselves Christian.

  38. bgbear says:

    madCanada :

    Pride is a terrible reason to do anything. Pride is one of the Seven Deadly Sins. It will not take you to a good place.
    FYI, to those who call yourselves Christian.

    I am not convinced this makes sense. If I follow, I should drive my car carelessly in exact proportion to my odds of getting killed in any accident, car, bathtub, whatever.

    I may die in any number of ways, why should I avoid one way over another when I know some day I will die.

    Doesn’t your point defeat itself?

    You only have one life, pride as self preservation is no sin. Thinking yourself more worthy of life than others may be a sin but, I do not think that it is the same.

    Of course, I know I am shallow thinker.

  39. madCanada says:

    My point seems pretty intact, bgbear. Of course, 2900 people dying all at once in an hour is much more shocking than 500,000 people dying needlessly, one by one, over a year.

    But you, bgbear, a civilian, have the right to to get your knickers in a knot every time the wind changes direction.

    A real leader needs be a deeper, clearer thinker.

    Yes, Al-Quaida did a horrendous thing on 9/11. But it was a one-off, and in the grand scheme of things– NOT A BIG DEAL. Get over it.

    GET OVER IT.

  40. madCanada says:

    GET OVER IT.

  41. madCanada says:

    NOT A BIG DEAL.

  42. bgbear says:

    @madCanada

    Your right, it is just like that girl who dumped me in high school, I am happily married now, no big deal.

    What was I thinking?

    I feel better now.

  43. shesnailie says:

    “Fact … CANCER and HEART DISEASE kill a vast greater number of Americans every year, much more than “Terrorism”.

    Yet a great number of Americans are opposed to universal health care, even if it means reducing these numbers, maybe even finding a cure.”

    _@_v – just because we’re opposed to the means doesn’t mean we’re opposed to the ends – we’re just not willing to roll over on whatever cockamamie scheme the liberal guilt industrial complex sends down the pike…

    every one of the universal health care scenarios do nothing to truly address the cost of medicare and are too chickensh** to simply impose direct price controls like they used to do in the bad old days.

    we’ve long learned that as soon as the government has a dollar to spend the grasping hands come out – each one making the case that THEY are entitled to their ‘fair share’. people in need get crumbs if they’re lucky and in the end most of it goes to whoever paid the biggest bribe – i mean campaign contribution to the winning party that year…

  44. bgbear says:

    @shesnailie
    i heart shesnailie, so direct and gastropod in thinking.

  45. Mike Gebert says:

    “Yes, Al-Quaida did a horrendous thing on 9/11. But it was a one-off, ”

    That’s kind of a funny way to refer to the SECOND Al-Qaeda attack on the exact same skyscraper.

  46. Susan in Elk Grove CA says:

    Thank you for that video.

  47. madCanada :

    Yet a great number of Americans are opposed to universal health care, even if it means reducing these numbers, maybe even finding a cure.

    I cannot believe I am feeding this troll, but, eghhh, whatevs.

    Fabulous – Universal health care will cure cancer. Because nobody has ever tried that before. But the government will do it, with long lines, fewer Doctors, and mandates. Universal health care is a a mandate to cure cancer!

    That’s like saying, ‘I opened up the sky and custard fell out’. Makes no sense at all.

    James – sorry that this wonderful tribute you’ve given as a gift for us has been sullied by these jackhole truthers. And now I’m sorry for my minuscule contribution to the uncivil discourse.

    Back to our normal bleating…

  48. Bill says:

    Don’t you know 9/11 was planned by the Bush Administration as a power grab and to ensure a Republican majority for decades…

    Oh, wait.

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